And on Skenazy's original post, BlogHer's own Stirrup Queen, Mel, comments so thoughtfully I would totally kiss her on the lips if that wasn't, you know, weird and creepy.It's absolutely fine for a het woman to not be attracted to, or interested in kissing, another woman. But calling it weird and creepy? Really?
Friday, September 18, 2009
Two women kissing? That's "weird and creepy."
From this (otherwise sensible) post on Blogher:
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White Male Dude,
ReplyDeleteYou've got stones. Hate is a bit extreme. I guess it depends on how many months have passed since you signed the divorce decree.
I have more of a problem with the "Feminist Superiority Thing" in general than White Woman specifically.
I will definitely check out your blog though. Thanks for getting into the mix.
Burn
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So many entitled males defending their privilege, so little time...
ReplyDeleteBurnBrother and White Male: didja check out the Indexed post about Bitterness? Thanks for giving us a concrete example.
In this case, it appears that Burn hit the nail on the head:
ReplyDeleteI guess it depends on how many months have passed since you signed the divorce decree.
I'm sorry you had such a bad experience, White Male. Hopefully you'll heal and move on. But hating an entire demographic is unfair and unproductive. And it's a sign of arrested development. Most het women have been wronged by men too, but most of us assume we were wronged by an individual, or several individuals, and don't extrapolate to the entire group based on the few. It's called being mature and reasonable.
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ReplyDeleteBurnBrother, is that your name or did you make it up? If so WTF?
ReplyDeleteInsulting other commenters won't be tolerated Burn. I generally avoid comment moderation, but you've established a pattern here, and I'm done putting up with it. Argue with our words and claims all you want. No more personal insults.
ReplyDelete*Sigh* My last comment was in response to Burn's comment, which has now been deleted. Feel free to ignore it.
ReplyDeletevoiceofreason,
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that guys like White Male have been known to go on shooting sprees. Whatever it is they might say about the way women have treated them (and I don't deny that some women mistreat men), it's never the case that women go on shooting sprees and kill a bunch of men. And if they did, it would be conceptualized as a woman who snapped, or who was born evil, or whatever. But when a man like Sodoni, or our friend White Male here, kills a bunch of women it's widely held to be the fault of women in general, for not lovin on him enough.
Hey Brioche,
ReplyDeleteI guess your Den Mother Rachel felt you were just too sensitive to handle my responses. I'm sure she's just trying to protect you from mean bad guys like me. Maybe when you get a bit older...
Actually BurnBrother was earned playing college football. Is Brioche a nickname or did someone give it to you on purpose?
Burn,
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It's funny how predictable it is - people who can't argue to save their lives always resort to personal insults and threats. What they don't realize is that by behaving that way, they're revealing their insecurity for all to see. It kind of makes me feel embarrassed for them.
ReplyDeleteBrioche,
ReplyDeleteWhat is your problem? It's you and Rachel that don't have the balls to post up. You were the one that just tried to bust on me on BurnBrother, I just responded. What planet are you living on? Keep current on your medication. I've already argued. It's just when you college professor / student academic types get your asses kicked you decide someone can't argue.
Listen to me Sunshine. The days of goofs like you and your ilk defining the terms of the argument are over. You need to lift your game. Actually, you need to get a game first, then lift it.
You must be taking a class from Rachel. I'm sure she's trying to convince you that people that don't agree with you on your terms "can't argue". Let me tell you, that might get you a grade, but it won't get you very far in life. Although you might check with someone that is actually living in the real world.
If you want some honesty talk to Rachel and have her put up my prior post. I'm thinking you can't handle quite that much honesty. You girls need to get your stories straight.
Actually, send a quick email to Mother Rachel, maybe she'll bounce this post too. What a bunch of lightweights.
Burn
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Um, I live in Arizona, I've never met Rachel IRL, and I'm an Engineering Tech. Hardly academic. But I did take a basic critical thinking course in college. Perhaps you should have too.
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ReplyDeleteOK, here's my comment again, without the personal insult.
ReplyDeleteBurn, you seem to be having trouble grasping this, so maybe a little more explanation is in order. Rachel already said that comments with personal insults in them would be deleted. And then she deleted a comment of yours that was pretty damn insulting. Doing what you say is actually honest. But I can understand how this might be a new concept for you. Also, there's a difference between arguing with someone and slingin insults around. It's a very basic and not at all academic point that if you want to prove someone wrong, you attack their words, but insulting them just makes you look immature. There are lots of blogs out there that pretty much exist for the insult slinging. But others are designed for dialogue. Perhaps you could find one that's better suited to your needs.
Brioche - Did you check out my offer to you and Rachel? Open up your checkbook and let's rock that bet. Call your parents, cash advance a charge card, empty your 401K, rob a 7 11 or whatever. Lets confirm that you are as smart and intuitive as you think you are. Remember, I'm the guy you were calling a liar. No theory on this offer, its real world. You could probably live a couple years on $20K in Arizona. Actually, I own some rental properties in Gilbert, maybe we can work a deal…
ReplyDeleteJust so you understand, I'm the guy that directs the managers that hire the college grads after they've taken all of the BS university courses that are supposed to theoretically help them in their careers. I've got a track record of success and I really don't sweat it too much when an electronic tech tries to bang on me. But thanks for the input.
Jace - Actually, It seems you don't get it. I don't work or hang out in the mystical world of make believe like you folks. I do real things in the real world for a profit. I pay my people with real money when they really perform. That way they can support their real families and make their lives better, Really.
Maybe if more of the people that were on this blog were actually contributing to the economy instead of theorizing it would help.
It the real (business) world when people make unsupportable claims they get called on it, like immediately. Again, that's part of the issue here. Since most of you haven't been there you don't have a clue and you think that when you get hammered on a BS position you're being "picked on" and the "hammerer" is being immature. It's actually called reality. Try it sometime, or you could just be a professor.
As I've said before, whenever you folks hear something you don't like you want to get all intellectual about it. Now maybe if you are able to live your entire life in academia that would work, but in the real business world that approach will most likely have a negative outcome for a person. If you pull the intellectual BS card in business it's most likely that you'll lose a deal, get demoted, get fired or something else that is not much fun. Now I'm not claiming to be perfect, but I'm pretty damn good at what I do. So I'm really not too interested in your critique.
I see Mother Rachel bounced one of your posts, so maybe you have some juice. If you're feeling really froggy my email is burnbrother2424@gmail.com. This way we can protect your blogger sisters' virgin ears and I can get really honest with you. A fair western guy warning, just don't come to a gunfight with a knife. I'm kinda busy and can't continue to suffer fools as gladly as I have in the past. Reading the BS from you people gives me a headache.
It's funny that you assume we're all academics, and that this term is an insult in your vocabulary. I'm an IT professional in a company outside of the education industry. I make real money. And I hire and manage people who make real money. Does that make me worth more in your book? How sad for you. And is everything a dick-comparison contest for you? Then how sad for the people who have to live their lives around you.
ReplyDeleteI don't think you're all academics, but it's pretty clear you're all buying their program. In any case I'm sure you’re a really smart person in the IT world. Good for you. I guess I'd have to call a bit of BS on you on working in the real world tho. Although I would agree that at least in the corporate world IT people do make real money, it has more to do with senior management not normally understanding what the hell you folks do than anything else. Kinda of a "specialty tax", if you know what I mean.
ReplyDeleteAs someone that has spent years paying Project Managers six figure salaries to "referee" between the IT geeks and my people that actually have to deal with real customers it's always amazed me how out of touch IT folks are with how the real business world actually works. That said it makes sense that you hang out in this blog, since there isn't much reality being discussed in this environment either.
Trust me when I tell you that the people that spend time with me are always better for it. Save your pity for your feminist friends who live in a constant state of "victimhood" (that's probably not a word, but I like it). That truly would be a miserable way to exist.
As far as my plumbing goes I get zero complaints and I wasn't really thinking that you came with any so I didn't think there was much to talk about. If you're referring to me calling BS on your girlfriends when they call me out then I'm thinking that you kinda don't get that part of this deal.
In any case, I'm done with you folks. I'm gonna write a book and you goofs are going to be quoted.
Burn
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