tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6142743576584523533.post6198122893748206452..comments2023-09-28T19:10:43.760-06:00Comments on The Feminist Agenda: Correlation and Causation Part II: Mr. Sodini and the WomenRachelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08203151255248154129noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6142743576584523533.post-16591454660464374832009-08-11T16:06:34.014-06:002009-08-11T16:06:34.014-06:00Meg'n - I think you're absolutely right. I...Meg'n - I think you're absolutely right. It's the same old story, either way - they <i>make</i> us treat them this way. It's every abuser's indignant defense. If only zie would a), I wouldn't have to hurt hir! But if zie <i>does</i> a) the abuser is just so frustrated that zie failed to b), thus again forcing the abuser's hand. Only there's no end to this alphabet.Maudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6142743576584523533.post-7106955600440410642009-08-09T10:40:11.169-06:002009-08-09T10:40:11.169-06:00Maud,
I think all the talk about how Gates wasn&#...Maud,<br /><br />I think all the talk about how Gates wasn't polite enough to the cops and how as a mature black man he should know better than to mouth off to the police is a parallel here. As if it's the fault of POC when they're profiled and treated differently by the police.Meg'nnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6142743576584523533.post-16764526814501723492009-08-08T21:32:13.443-06:002009-08-08T21:32:13.443-06:00I'd go with not victim-blaming enough. This ve...I'd go with not victim-blaming enough. This version of events is itself a product of society's and the media's misogyny. It is, at least to a woman, pretty damn obvious why she wouldn't want to get involved with someone with this sense of entitlement toward women, <i>even before the bitterness</i>, if there was a before. What is "obvious" about the notion that women civilize men, or that if you date or marry a misogynist he becomes less so, when in fact all the evidence of domestic violence shows otherwise? If you are going to make a sensible assumption, the obvious one is it. If, however, you want to promote the notion that women are responsible for men's behavior, you'll go with the other.<br /><br />For comparison of this particular meme only, and not to suggest that racism is less prevalent today than misogyny, I wonder why you never hear anyone say that if only PoC would keep racists happier by providing them with more sex and affection, this whole problem of racism would fade away? Presumably no one says that because it's so obviously ridiculous. Not that PoC don't get blamed for the existence of racism in other ways. But despite the fact that there are male racists who are perfectly happy to marry women of color (giving them a chance to dominate someone they view as lesser in two ways), and plenty more who've shown themselves to be quite willing to have sex with them (although historically it hasn't been sex, but rape) the people telling this tale do seem to have grasped that it's foolish to suggest that women of color should soften the racists' attitudes by having sex with or marrying them. I have to assume that's because they think this would be insulting to <i>men</i> of color, not because it wouldn't otherwise be an excellent approach. And of, course, you don't want to get the men of color mad because those guys are scary. Found some racism behind there, too. . . Who'd have thought?Maudnoreply@blogger.com